Byron, Grimes, James, Mann

From: Ken and Laurie Huffman [[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 8:28 AM
To: Diana Goldenberg
Subject: RE: Lookup Request

Diana,

The way that the cemetery book was compiled, makes it really uncertain about burial locations. The Manns were all listed together in the order I sent them to you. The Southside Cemetery is one of the few with burial plot maps and Hannah, Mary E. and Eddie are all in the same plot. Willie is in the plot right next to it. The plot numbers are 51 & 52.

 

For some cemeteries a family relationships section is provided. There is one for this one but the relationships described are exactly the same as those in the burial section. The relationships you have described are probably correct. The additional circumstantial evidence provided in the burial records strengthens your guesses.

 

Itís interesting that Sylvester would marry two women with the same given name and middle initial. It casts a little uncertainty on the middle initial in this burial. I checked the 1860 Census to see if any of these people were here in 1860 but could not determine if any were from this family. However, you appear to be right about the marriages. I found these, which you probably already have:

MANN, SYLVESTER  BYRON, MARY E                        05/31/1857 00B/0355 00000143 FULTON             

MANN, SYLVESTER  GRIMES, GERTIE                       04/07/1892 G  /423           WILLIAMSON         

MANN, SYLVESTER  JAMES, MARY E                        04/18/1865 C  /30   353      BROWN              

 

I checked for pharmacists in the History of Brown County, Illinois, but their listings started in 1870. I also checked for family histories on the Mann family but found none. I also checked the probate index and there was only one, a John Mann, who died in 1850. Heís probably not part of your Mann family.

 

Sincerely,

Ken Huffman

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diana Goldenberg [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 7:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Fw: Lookup Request

 

Ken,

 

I am still working on the great break your lookup gave me.  By the way, Hannah Mann's husband, James died in Ohio in 1842.  I had found Hannah, Samuel, and John in the 1850 census in Ohio.  Sylvester is living with an uncle close by.  That was the last thing I found until your email. 

 

I know Hannah's son, William, married in Mason Co Illinois in 1854.  It looks as though the Dr. S.M. Mann may be Sylvester.  I believe the Mary E. burial you noted is his first wife.  I think he was married first in Fulton Co in 1857 to another Mary E. who died in 1864.  Then he married again, this time in Brown County to Mary E. James.  I believe he was a druggist who moved on to live in Sumner County, KS, hence the title Dr.

 

If I may ask, does it appear that the Manns you sent the data on are buried together or just listed together in the cemetery census.  Would appreciate any hints you can give.

 

Thanks again.  I am very excited to find Hannah.

 

Diana Mann Goldenberg

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Diana Goldenberg

To: Ken and Laurie Huffman

Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 7:13 PM

Subject: Re: Lookup Request

 

Ken,

 

Thank you, thank you, thank you.  This is confirmation of exactly what I had hoped.  This is my ggggrandmother.  I had the July 4th date and you sent it back to me.  I am so happy to have found her resting place.  I have been looking for over 10 years.  I had not already received this, as you might guess, so I thank you so much for taking the time to look this up. 

 

Now I will have to follow up on the S. M. Mann and Mary E. 

 

Again, my many thanks for putting this piece of the puzzle in place. 

 

Diana Mann Goldenberg

----- Original Message -----

From: Ken and Laurie Huffman

To: Diana Goldenberg

Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 6:48 PM

Subject: RE: Lookup Request

 

Diana,

You may have already received this. If so, here it is again:

 

From Cemeteries of Brown County, Illinois

Southside Cemetery, pp 352-355

Hannah, wife of James Mann, 4 July 1864, age 56 y, 3 m, 4 d.

Willie, son of Dr, S. M. and Mary E. Mann, 20 Jul 1863, age 4 m, 5 d.

Mary E., wife of Dr. S. M. Mann, 24 May 1864, age 29 y, 11 m, 16 d.

Eddie G., son of Dr. S. M. and Mary E. Mann,12 Jul 1864, age 1 m.

 

Sincerely,

Ken Huffman

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diana Goldenberg [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 6:38 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Lookup Request

 

Dear Pam, Ken or Laurie

 

I have been searching long and hard for Hannah Mann b. 1808 in NY, died July 1864.  She was born in NY.  I noticed a cemetery listing for a Hannah Mann in your list.  I just started looking at Brown County.  Know that my ancestor, Hannah's son John,  ended up in Mason County Illinois. I think I may have also found him in the 1860 census in Brown Co, as he was then single and working as a laborer.  Other sons were Samuel and William.  Another possible son was Sylvester.  William ended up in Mason and Menard County. Would greatly appreciate your lookup, at your earliest convenience, of the following cemetery information, along with any related Manns noted:

Mann, Hannah________ ________353
Mann, Mary E.________ 353
Mann, S. M.________ ________353

Thanks in advance,

Diana Mann Goldenberg