Dear
Kim,
Here are
the relationships as they are listed in the Cemeteries of brown County on page
250:
Thomas
Dorman and wife Angeline Flynn and children Ida E. Butler, Mabel, Francis Thomas
Dorman and wife Ary Houston with their dau. Lillian, wife of George
Turner.
This
seems to conflict with other
information. For example on p. 214, Francis is listed as Francis M. in stead of
Francis Thomas. Another, in the State marriage listing Thomas Dorman of Brown
County is married to Angeline Trobasco. Are these Angeline’s the same person
married twice. If so, which is her maiden
name?
http://cyberdriveillinois.com/cgi-bin/archives/marriage.s
GROOM BRIDE CNTY DATE VOL/PAGE LIC
_________________________________________________________________________________________
DORMAN, THOMAS TROBASCO, ANGELINE BROWN 02/17/1881 C/162 401
Based on
the 1880 Census information, you can assume that this Angeline was his second
wife and that the children listed as grandsons to Louis Dorman are Thomas’s
children. His fist wife may have died at or shortly after Birdie’s birth 5 months previous. Thomas
should really be listed as widowed.I do not have my 1880 microfilm readily
available. We’re getting ready to move and I packed it, so I verify the entry.
On page
67 of the Cemeteries book in the Jacques Cemetery is a listing for an Angeline
Dorman, (3 Apr 1881, aged 19 yrs) and she is buried along with Birdie Dorman (27
Aug 1895, age 16 months). These do not appear tot be the same persons in
Thomas’s family. BUT What if the transcriber of the burial record misread the
entries and they really should be Angeline Dorman age 29 and Birdie (27 Aug
1880, age 6 mo.) That would make Birdie born in April when her mother died and
approximately 5 months old when the census record was made. This is really a
long shot, we not only have to assume the dates are wrong but that Thomas
married two Angelines. One of them possibly Angeline Flynn, and the other
Angeline Trobasco. While this is certainly unprovable at this time, they do come
together in a kind of interesting way. If the things in the Cemeteries Book are
really errors they are fine examples of the kinds of errors I have found and
proven in other places in the book.
One
other little piece of information that adds to the situation, the Jacques
Cemetery is in Elkhorn Twp and the Dorman burlials were among the neighborhood
burials. On the 1880 Census page just a couple of households away from Louis
Dorman is a Jacques family.
I
believe the B. D. and Addie Turner on p. 118 of the Cemeteries book are the same
couple found in the 1870 Census.
On p 267
of the Cemeteries book, these relationships are
given.
Walter
G. Turner and wife Ida Williams
William
J. Turner and first wife George Ann Kendrick and Lillian Dorman wife of son
George. Also 2nd wife of W. J. Turner, Mietta Hickman
Baird.
George
Turner and wife Josephine Barrows, with son Charles H. and wife Carrie Smith and
infant child of (1) dau Mary and Glenn Hersman.(2) Robert Turner with wife
Eileen Simpson. (3) Charles and
Catherine M. Turner.
No
information for farther back on James K. Polk
Houston.
There is
a James B. Moore and Cordelia Marrett who could be the parents of Deborah but I
do not have any thing connecting them except that they are buried in the same
cemetery. and they are the right age to be parents. She could be their
1st daughter. However, she is not in the 1870 Census and James her
brother would be the same age. So this is probably a wild
lead.
That’s
about all there is in the records I have. Sorry there isn’t
more.
Sincerely,
Ken
Huffman
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Dorman, Turner and Houston in Brown County
Laurie,
Last
October you were kind enough to look up some people from your Brown County
Permanent Resident Index.
You had found Thomas Dorman (214) and
Angeline Dorman. But I have come to find out that Thomas was married prior
to Angeline, and wonder if you would have any record of that. I know he
had a son in 1875, and Angeline was born in 1864, so there is no way she is his
mom. In the 1880 census, Elkhorn Township, page 18, dwelling 167
there are multiple generations listed, but I am unable to determine wives of the
two sons, who have children but are listed as single. Can you help?
Francis Dorman that is listed as 5 years old, I believe is my
great-grandfather.
The other potential relatives that I would love any
information that you may have are:
Addie Turner (118)
-possibly
Adelisa or Adliza Turner, born approx 1820 in Kentucky
B. D. Turner
(118)
-possibly Benjamin Turner, born approx 1820 in Kentucky, and died
before 1880.
George Ann (Kendrick) Turner (238)
-no other information
other than possibly born in Illinois and married to William James Turner on 21
Feb 1895. (Would love any parents names.)
James K. Polk Houston
(220)
-James K. or James P. Houston or Huston, born approx 1850. (Would love
any parents
information)
Deborah (Moore) Houston (220)
-born approx 1855, married to James
(would love any information).
Thank you for all your hard
work.
Sincerely,
Kim (Turner) Andrews
Chanhassen,
Minnesota