Kim,
To
remove LDS Data: go to Tools->Preferences -> General Tab. On this page is
a check box: Use LDS Data. Uncheck it.
To
rearrange children: Click on Edit -> Order Children. Highlight the child you
want to change and click on the order arrows until the child is at the desired
location in the list. Then Click OK.
To do
multiple marriages: Highlight the person you want to add another spouse to and
either right click your mouse and select Add Spouse or Click Add-> Spouse
from the tool bar at the top.
I’m
afraid the 1890 Census will never be available. It was burned in a fire at the
US Census building shortly after it had all been collected from the states. Just
a few counties were late sending them in. So the whole census is lost. It is
possible that the death year for Birdie is correct but that her age was wrong.
It works both ways. She also could have been 3 months old when her mother
died.
I’m not
sure which Angeline came first but the Cemetery record indicates that Angeline
Dorman died in 3 April 1881. Either she really died a year earlier or she is not
Thomas’s first Angeline. He married Angeline Trobasco in February 1881 and I
trust the marriage date more than I trust the recorded death date. The death
date was probably poorly written. The book indicates that it was on an old
burial record for the Jaques Cemetery.
If the
Angeline in the Jaques Cemetery is really Angeline Flynn then the entry for
Angeline Flynn in the Cemeteries book has to be for Angeline Trobasco. OR the
Angeline in the Jaques Cemetery is neither and the Angeline Flynn and Angeline
Trobasco are the same person. I really doubt that he was able to find three
Angelines to marry him.
I looked
for the earlier marriage in the State Marriage index but it does not appear
their. Three possible conclusions, his first marriage or earlier marriage was
not in Illinois or the record was lost or it was a common law marriage. The last
two seem less likely than the first. So you might start looking in the states
nearby for the marriage.
1865
Illinois State Census was the last one Illinois did.
To find
Thomas’s parents and research in Kentucky: Get his death certificate, see if you
can locate his obituary. Both of these may provide clues where to look in
Kentucky. The Mt Sterling Public Library has the newspaper microfilms for that
period of time and sometimes you can arrange to get them on interlibrary loan.
If both of these fail, go to the LDS Family History Library and check the AIS
for all the persons of that surname and start checking them until you find the
one you want.
Interpretation
of the 1880 census or rather misinterpretation is common. The handwriting is not
always clear and some entries are faded. In this case, I think the Huffman
transcribers were tired and just plain misread the information. However, the LDS
Census has many errors that we do not have because they only had the microfilm
and could not compare hard to read sections with other records. They could only
write what they could see on the film. But both of these errors were
ours.
Thanks
for the eads up.
Sincerely,
Ken
Huffman
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From:
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Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 10:12
AM
To:
[email protected]
Subject:
Re: Dorman, Turner and Houston in Brown County
In
a message dated 8/7/2002 11:35:33 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected]
writes:
I
have beta tested the new releases so I’ve gotten some insights on how to use it
that you might not get otherwise. I hope you got version 5. Version 4 had a few
problems and didn’t last too long before it was replaced.
I
have PAF 5. Trying to learn how to use it. Was told that I can
remove the LDS information since I am not Mormon. Will try and do that
this morning.
Still haven't figured out how to rearrange children
in correct birthorder. Also wondering if there is a place to write the
documentation that verifies items on an individual's record. I also need
to figure out how to do multiple marriages.
I am slowly learning,
but I am impatient, and wish I knew it all right now.
Glad to hear
that your wife will be back with you. I have several friends who are
involved in similar job situations. Most plan to move in two years when
their youngest is done with high school. Will be sad to see them go, but
understand.
When I was at the LDS History Center, we looked on
microfilm for Brown County information. I was surprised that your name and
website never appeared. Kept telling the people there how helpful you have
been.
The two people I am focusing on right now are my father's
paternal grandmother, Georgeann Kendrick, and my father's maternal
great-grandfather, Thomas Dorman.
I do not know Georgeann's
birthday, birthplace in Illinois, death (supposedly before 1910 census), or her
parent's names and where they are from. Now from your information it
appears that her husband, William James Turner had a second wife, Mietta Hickman
Baird. That is new information to me.
Thomas Dorman appears
to have had possibly three wives, the first being my great-great grandmother,
whose name I don't know, then Angeline Trobasco, then Angeline Flynn. I
have been in contact with a descendent of Angeline Flynn's family, and she has
come up with the same information.
Did not know that Birdie Dorman
had passed away so young. From the 1880 census, it shows her being born in
January 1880 in the remarks section. Maybe she was 16 years when she
passed away, but then she would appear on the 1890 census. Have not seen
that the 1890 census is available yet. So the cemetary information must
truely be in error. Could I go to the Jacques Cemetary and find
headstones, or would that be impossible?
When I pulled up the 1880 census
from your site for Louis Dorman, the information is slightly different from what
was on the disc at the LDS History Center. Walter is 13, not 18.
Oscar is a son, not a grandson. The rest is the same. Is this
common, to interpret the information differently? I can see the 13 and 18
easily being mixed up, but the son/grandson would seem to be easy to read from
even an old record. Just curious.
So much hunting. I just
wish I could clear up Thomas Dorman's information. Is there a 1875
Illinois state census? That might be helpful.
You mentioned
roots in Kentucky. It appears that Benjamin Turner and Addliza Singleton
were both born in Kentucky between 1817 and 1820. Can you suggest a route
for finding information there?
I have rambled on long
enough. I am so excited to find information, that I don't want to
stop. My husband does not see the point. He knows where his family
is from, and doesn't care to research. I know my mother's maternal side
way back into the 1600's in Denmark, and her father's side back to Denmark in
the 1800's. But on my dad's side, I knew nothing. To have found 11
various relatives has been exciting. I want to confirm their relationship
before I go any farther back. Would hate to end up researching the wrong
family!
Again, many thanks.
Kim Andrews
Chanhassen,
MN