Names: McMeins

Looking for information on One John McMeins.  his name was also spelled
McMeans or McMain
he lived in Brown county and was a farm labor.  He was very poor and did
not own land or any personal property but i know from records that he
was in the county from record i got from the national archives about his
mexican war veteran.

He was married two time and think both marriages was done in adams
county. John's first wife was Mary Ann , maiden name not sure if ( Bell
or Carter )
she died fall of 1858 or 1859 at John Bell's house and Marion and Ira
Bell was there at her death.
John was Married to second wife name Eliza Jane (dopp)/  John McMeins
died in the poor house 5 mile west of Mt Sterling Il  aug. 18 1884 and
was barried at Keith - Bell cemetery.

when i look for census records i find noting , would this be because he
did not own any land or property and was poor?

any information would be of great help in searching for who his Mom Dad
BOthers and sister was.

John McMeins was my Great great grandpa.

Gary McMeins
Mt Pleasant, iowa

Looking for McMeins Or also spelled McMeans or McMain  they lived in
Brown county and my great great grandpa was Barried at Keith-Bell
cemetery Aug. 18 1884 and last years of his life he lived in the poor
house 5 miles west of Mt Sterling Il.

i found the listing as follow and like to know if they are what i am
looking for.
1840 census brown county  John Means  177
1850 census brown co   McMeans  151b
1860 census brown co    McMeins w b1178
                                       McMeans Lizzie  m1728
1870 census brown co   John e47

Or have one question.  Because John McMeins alias McMeans or McMain was
very poor , did not own and land or real property and last years of his
life lived in poor house would he even be listed or registered for any
census at all?

have a good day

GaryMcMeins

John McMeins died Aug.

Dear Gary,

Here is the result of your census requests. I think it is important to point out that the name Means and McMeans could easily be confused in Brown County. John Means (1840) may not be "McMeans". Another example of this is Milton McMeans in the 1860 census (age 13). He is listed as Milton Means (age 23) in 1870. The John (no surname) that you requested has been re-read as John Leeper.

1840 Fed Census, Brown County, IL:
John Means household
    1 male 0/5
    1 male 5/10
    1 male 10/15
    1 male 15/20
    1 male 20/30
    1 male 40/50
    1 female 0/5
    1 female 10/15
    1 female 30/40

1850 Fed Census: See this family on Brown County website

1860 Fed Census, Buckhorn twp, Brown County, IL 1178:
    W. McMeans 21, farmer, b. IL
    Mrs. E. McMeans 23, f, b. PA
    L.J. McMeans (female) 11 months, b. IL
    Lewis McMeans 16, b. IA
    Milton McMeans 13, b. IL

1860 Fed Census, Missouri twp, Brown County, IL 1178/1668:
    Lizzie A. McMeans 15, b. IL (in the home of John Bell)
    (female - not readable) McMeans 1, b. IL (in the home of John Bell)

1870 Fed Census, Elkhorn twp, Brown County, IL 47.47:
    John Leeper 65, b. Ireland
    Margaret Leeper, (age not readable - probably 61), b. Ireland
    John Leeper 12, b. OH
    William Leeper 10, b. OH

Hope these are of help to you. Please don't hesitate to get back to me if you have any questions on this report.

Ken Huffman

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GM wrote:
Looking for McMeins Or also spelled McMeans or McMain  they lived in
Brown county and my great great grandpa was Barried at Keith-Bell
cemetery Aug. 18 1884 and last years of his life he lived in the poor
house 5 miles west of Mt Sterling Il.

i found the listing as follow and like to know if they are what i am
looking for.
1840 census brown county  John Means  177
1850 census brown co   McMeans  151b
1860 census brown co    McMeins w b1178
                                       McMeans Lizzie  m1728
1870 census brown co   John e47

Or have one question.  Because John McMeins alias McMeans or McMain was
very poor , did not own and land or real property and last years of his
life lived in poor house would he even be listed or registered for any
census at all?

have a good day

GaryMcMeins

John McMeins died Aug. 18 1884 at poor house 5 miles west of Mt Sterling
Il.  He is laid to rest at Keith-Bell cemetery in Brown co.  My great
great grandpa was a Mexican war veteran...

Dear gary,
I checked the histories I had available but found nothing to connect the two
Carter women as sisters. Part of the problem may be that they did not live
in Brown County long enough to get the public records required to provide
the evidence you need. You may want to contact the Versailles Historical
Society to see if they have something more than I have. The Schuyler Brown
Historical Society may also be another possible resource.

I checked the 1850 & 1860 censuses and these people are not there. This
supports the issue mentioned above that they may not have been on Brown
county very long. Another place to check will be the surrounding counties.
The fact that he was married in Adams County to his first wife might be a
clue to where to look for them in the Census.

I'm sorry I haven't been able to help more.
Sincerely,
Ken Huffman

GM wrote:

> thanks for the census information.
>
> i do have some more questions.
> see from what i have on records of John McMeins  if found out he has 2
> wives,  no one know of first wife until i found it  when his 2nd wife
> filed for his mexican war pension.
> from what i can tell Johns first wife was Named  MARY ANN CARTER ( i did
> find there marriage record when they was married in adams Co. in 1841)
> and think she was related to John Bells second wife Her name was
> Elizabeth Carter..  When Mary Ann (carter ) McMeins died she died in
> fall of 1858 or 1859 at the house of John Bell's with Ira and Marion
> bell there and can not prove it be think she is at Keith-Bell cemetery.
>
> JOhn McMeins was borned 1818 in Jefferson Co. Mo. from the records of
> his pension
>
> Do you no of any one who has to history of Elizabeth Carter who married
> John Bell that maybe could tell me that Elizabeth Carter and Mary Ann (
> Carter) McMeins was sisters or not?  for things are kind of adding up if
> you can see.
>
> To bad you could not read the other name of McMeins that was age 1.
> Would like to know this.
> have a good day and thanks so much
>
> Gary